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evacuations. extreme weather in dangerous millions of americans, including large swaths of the country at risk of records heat. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in the situation room tonight the 2024 presidential race is shifting into an aggressive new phase as president joe biden, former president donald trump are getting closer and closer to their high-stakes debate right here on cnn just ten days from now. cnn's alayna treene is covering the trump campaign. cnn's kayla tausche is covering the biden campaign for us. first, let's go to kayla. how is the biden camp kayla sharpening it's a strategy a wolf. >> the biden campaign has for months, been talking about the so-called split-screen between what president biden and former president trump have been doing these last few months, but a new ad that is just outputs

into stark relief and into stark new messaging. exactly what the biden campaign feels that split screen screen should look like. that's part of a new $50,000,000 ad by across all battleground states, as well as on cable, television. and here's a little sample of that new ad in the courtroom. we see donald trump for who he is. he's been convicted of 34 felonies, found liable for sexual assault, and he committed financial fraud. this election is between a convicted criminal who's only out for himself and a president who's fighting for your family now this ad previewing some of the amped up rhetoric that we could expect from president biden on the debate stage next week, as he goes directly after trump, as a convicted criminal. >> and the two presidents vie for support from independence as well as more dollars from donors over the weekend, the biden campaign raised more than 30 million as part of a

star-studded fundraiser in hollywood where biden appeared on stage with president obama and it was co-hosted by george clooney and attendees say that president biden gave an impassioned plea about the future of the supreme court being on the line, among other things. but even despite that fundraising, wolf the biden campaign's suggesting it needs more a text message blasted grassroots donor this afternoon from vice president kamala harris, suggesting that trump has raised $141 million just since the conviction and asking donors to help them match that, a president biden is going to be spending the federal juneteenth holiday in rehoboth beach, delaware, then he'll be trapped leveling to camp david to start some of that debate prep, hill, he and his team will be refining his messages and some of those attacks wolf address thing kayla, what are you learning about this important meeting that the former president had with the house speaker today? >> while take that one for you. well, for us so today, donald trump met with house speaker mike johnson, as well as

richard hudson, the chairman of house republicans campaign arm, and i'm told that the two really walked donald trump through the key races that they think are critical to helping them not only keep their majority come fall, but also expanded. and that's really critical as well, to donald trump, who will want to enact his policy agenda if he is to reclaim the white house, if they can expand the majority. donald trump, we will do a lot more regarding policy then with the majority, this slim majority i should say that they current l0 have now i also just want to take you through this weekend where donald trump was really aggressively campaigning in michigan. he first spoke to black voters, although i will say the audience was predominantly white, but he was courting black voters in detroit. >> he also had some interesting words talking about crime, something that i know some of the rhetoric eu saying that the city of detroit was hellish, saying that many black

communities are the ones that are rife with crime. >> this is rhetoric that we've heard from other black voters in the past that hasn't sat right with them that they argue has racial overtones of the same kind of language donald trump used over the weekend, but i do so want to touch on what he said at the turning point action conference later that day, he talked about wanting to guard the vote while simultaneously trying to convince his voters really two buy into the early voting and mail-in voting that republicans had really taught them to be skeptical the club back in 2020, listen to how he put it we need to watch the weekend to guard. >> we need to talked treacherous the election in order to change it they had these boxes or local place people walk now, clearly you

could hear donald trump. >> they're repeating a lot of the rhetoric about the election being stolen in 2020, but also laying the groundwork for republicans to try and claim that the upcoming election could it be rife with election fraud as well. and what i find really interesting about this is it's very contradictory. we know that his campaign and groups like turning point are trying to convince republicans to buy into mail-in voting to do early voting, even though donald trump continuously criticizes those processes on the campaign trail. it also, i think it just gives you some insight into the inner workings of what the republican party is trying to do behind the scenes and how donald trump is sometimes getting in the way of that. >> well, cattle is clearly heating up alayna treene and kayla tausche to both of you. thank you very much. let's get some analysis right now with our political experts and jeff zeleny, there's new biden campaign ad is what part of a $50,000,000 advertising blitz that's going on right now in

several of the key battleground states. but almost everybody knows about trump's conviction. so how effective is this going to be? >> i mean, we will see there are certainly investing a considerable amount of money behind this ad and they've obviously have tested this out. but what they're trying to do, clearly there phrase draw that contrast. you can see the beginning of the ad is black and white, but donald trump in the courtroom, the ending of the adh is president biden around with the union workers signing legislation, other things. so again, trying to draw this, stark comparison between the two, it's really what the biden campaign has been trying to do for months and months and months. since with limited success. i mean, the polls have been remarkably stable given everything that's happened in the race, 34 felony convictions. i mean, we couldn't have even imagined that i once upon a time, the polls have barely changed but they really believed the biden campaign talking to their advisors believed that what they need to do is bring some democrats tom and brings some biden voters home. so by shining a light on this, so stark difference, they think

that's necessary in clearly, they also want this to be part of the conversation going into the debate next week, our debate here on cnn and just ten days. well, let me give actually the way you should president biden be leaning into this argument during next week's debate? you should definitely talk about the contrast between himself and the former president trump. in addition to talking of painting a feature, a picture for the future of america. one of the ways to bring democrats back to jeff was talking about is not just what have you done for me lately, but what i will continue to do ignite collagen. americans are still suffering and that the economy is improving, but it's not where we want it to go. and if you give me four years, we will get it there. so i definitely think you should draw the contrast, but also paint the picture of the future. >> sure. michael should republicans be concerned about the contrast that biden is now drawing between himself? and trump right now going into the debate next week, and part of the campaign that he's working for the american people. and

trump is only out from self and he's a convicted felon? >> yes. >> not necessarily wolf. and i think we can expect the trump campaign. they do the same with the millions of dollars they've raised. and thus far to just point, both candidates, both camps are going to start pumping a millions and to add saying that i'm better than the other guy. so vote for me. what we notice in that ad, it was heavy on the criminality of some of the things that the foreign president has experienced. >> but we didn't really hear a plan or a path forward for how the president to ashley's point is going to materially improve the lives of working class voters, which is where i believe the former president has an opportunity to continue to hammer on that economic and immigration message, which most voters still currently believe they have not seen improvements under the current administration, are well, if the base is going to be lively and we're getting a better look right now at the terms for next week's debate that are both campaigns of apparently agreed to they've agreed to two. >> there will be no studio audience. you've got some notes up there in the screen microphones will be muted throughout the debate except for the candidate speaking no

props or pre-written notes aloud, and candidates will be given a pen, a pad of paper, and a bottle of water. what are your takeaway, jeff, from this format, look the biggest thing is if we remember the last time these two two candidates met on stage, a friendly, it was last time either of them have debated in 2020, and the interruptions were so extreme, it was very difficult to hear what either of them were saying and it's one of the reasons that many republicans believe that donald trump actually did not do well in that debate, interrupting at the time, a former vice president joe biden, but so cutting off the microphones, that is the key difference here, really. but yes, there are a couple of commercials which is probably good for the candidates to rest a bit, but cutting off the mic so they're not speaking. it's interesting because it raised, if it works, it raises the burden. i think on both sides to make their coherent point and you can't necessarily a wind by having someone else out shout you. so the no. audience,

the no studio audience is also very important. the white house insisted on that president biden did not want an audience and a donald trump wanted to debate joe biden. that's what they've been waiting for here. so again, the earliest debate in history and the biden campaign is really hoping that it sort of gives him a lift and the trump campaign is hoping it does the opposite. yeah, we'll see what happens next week. >> it's coming up as trump. yeah, sure. michael is stepping up his attacks against biden raising questions about hides mental status right now take a look at this as what this was with trump's said the other day. listen to this i think he should take a cognitive tests like i did. >> i took a cognitive test nih docx, rotting dr. ronny johnson does everyone know ronnie johnson, congressmen from taxes. he was the white house doctor and he said i was the healthiest president. he feels that history, so i liked him very much. >> the only problem is we all

know it's not running it's running jackson. >> that's the name. >> doctor who did the investigation was pretty awkward. >> we offer get things sometimes, yes. president biden is older, is slowing down? yes. i think many people see that with their own eyes i'm not a medical professional, i'm not going to attempt to diagram can present number the name of floor that's my point. people forget what i think the message this campaign cycle should be on the issues that matter. >> this debate that's coming up and i'm happy there is an audience. people want to hear about how you're going to improve things for them. there are so many people in this country where there's young people, african americans poor white americans, other americans of color who do believe that there's this huge disconnect between a certain class as of americans are wealthy, well-educated, and the rest of them and both of those candidates next week, nice to drive that message home. i ashley is looking at me saying like throws rocks and he lives in a glass house like he couldn't get the man's name right. and he's talking about

his opponents, cognitive ability, stop it also. i love the fact that they're going to cut off the microphone because i think this is like poisoning donald trump to actually throw a tantrum. on stage, because very rarely as he surrounded by people who check him and this is a way for our network to hold them accountable and keep the conversation on. it's going to be lively to be sure, guys. thank you very, very much. just ahead. news coming in. i just where steve bannon was. students start start to report to prison. and why the former trump adviser is in getting his wish plus controversial comments from a top contender to be donald trump's running mate will get reaction to what senator j.d. vance is saying from one of his fellow lawmakers senator chris murphy, he steady by-line they are unpredictable sleeping giants every volcano has its own personality, or if we don't understand they are windows into part of our planet lives will be lost violent earth with liev schreiber, sunday at nine

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apparently not what the former trump adviser was hoping for. let's get the latest from cnn's zachary cohen is joining us right now. so zach, what are sources revealing to cnn yeah. >> well, if ben had hoped to serve out his time in what is called a club fed. it's known, as notice that because it is it low security work camp of types and it's the most comfortable option for federal inmates instead, though, we're learning from our source that bannon will have to serve out his sentence in a low security federal prison. this is a prison that is home to a lot of white collar prisoners like steve bannon, but it will also, it's also home to some violent and defender there's a difference print population that bannon will often serve out his time in prison when he reports on july 1, that's the date of a judge's order. bannon to report to start serving out his four months sentence. the reason bannon can't serve out his time in this lowest security, most comfortable option for inmates is because he's got another pending criminal case. this one's in new york. you might remember that he faced this is criminal charges for allegedly defrauding investors over the we build the wall scheme. this

was essentially a fraud scheme that bannon and others were charged with several years ago. um, look, but he's gonna have to serve out his time in a federal prison as that case is still pending leading up to trial and september. and as you continue to appeal his contempt of congress ruling in bird flying a january 6 committee subpoena. he was convicted of that over two years ago. i want to go a little deeper into what this facility that he's gonna be reporting to his it's home to about 1,000 different inmates. it's also adjacent, but much smaller female prison that was really made famous by that show on netflix. orange is the new black federal, the federal facility that's well known. it's an danbury, connecticut and it's one that steve bannon will spend four months and when he reports under a month, interest exactly cohen. >> thank you very, very much. i even as steve bannon faces jail, he is rallying far-right activists and trump's supporters with a chilling battle. braille of quote, victory or death. let's talk

about that in more with democratic congressman chris murphy of connecticut. thanks so much for joining us. let's talk a little bit about that, but i want you to listen to what steve said at this event that trump spoke at as well. listen to this november 5 is judgment day january 20, 2025 is accountability de gonna get every single receipt? >> and to the fullest extension of the law. you are going to be investigated prosecuted, and incarcerated. ladies and gentlemen, it's very simple. >> victory or death so how do you interpret this i mean, i don't know. >> that sounds like a madman. >> and i can't keep track all of these guys, everybody has been around. >> donald trump is in jail. his campaign managers is national purity advisers. and this guy just surrounds himself with criminals and i've got a job to do to try to run the country. i can't keep track of all the idiotic things that down trump's criminal class

says at rallies america should see who donald trump is he's an autocrat in waiting. he wants to be president in order to dispense with our democracy. he surrounds himself with sick offense and criminals. that's just what he is. and i don't know. i don't spend a lot of time tracing steven bannon's actions, deeds, and statements let's move on, senator. gop center, j.d. vance says he believes alternative slates of electors for states trump lost should have been submitted back in 2020. he's a front runner, were told to be trump's potential running mate. what's your reaction? so that that's the first time hearing of it. >> so what i know is that donald trump is still in denial that he lost the 2020 election basically, anybody in good standing and the republican

party today has to accept the premise that the 2020 election was stolen from donald trump, despite the fact that there's no evidence it's an unfortunate circ*mstance that publican party has come to this place in which they have to pledge allegiance to donald trump and his wild conspiracy theories about the 2020 election. in order to have any shot at being a able to be nominated for office so i don't know what center vance is talking about, but what i do think is unfortunate hit is the donald trump continues to attack the 2020 election if he loses in 2024, he will attack that election and he will likely encourage to supporters to use violence to try to overthrow the election section as he did in 2020. this is a serious, these are serious times and i wish that my republican colleagues would choose democracy, choose the rule of law over trump's conspiracy theories and endorsem*nt of violence. >> while i have your senator, i want to turn to the issue of

gun control. you called your gop colleagues hesitation to act on legislation to ban bump stocks. >> and i'm quoting you're now you said it was scary. >> this is what gop senator thom tillis said, i'm quoting him now, take a look at this these folks are looking for a way to be partisan even when there may be some flicker of bipartisan hope. maybe if they taking the time to say guys, how do we get this or how do we address this? we would have a possibility of getting something past how do you respond? senator, tell us well, senator tillis is a good friend and he is someone that has been very serious about saving lives and passing common sense gun legislation in the in the congress. >> and so i'll be glad to talk to senator tell us about his concerns. i guess my feeling is that this issue isn't really that complicated. i'm not sure what additional discussion would produce because the bill that is in front of congress this week or next week is pretty simple. it just bands,

bump stocks it says that you can't continue to sell these devices that turn a semi-automatic weapon into a machine gun. that's where a trump administration tried to do. with the support of republicans. the supreme court just struck down the trump administration's regulation. and all we're seeking to do is take that trump era or regulation and play put it into statue. i thought this was something that we had consensus on that we shouldn't legalize machine guns by accident in this country. and so if senator jealous has concerns, i'll listen to him because he's got a lot of credibility on this issue, but i don't know that it's that confusing. it's simple bill banned bump stocks. make sure that we keep machine guns out of the hands of mad men in this country. i think that attribute something we should be able to find easy consensus and related to that, the senate majority leader, chuck schumer says he will bring the bump-stock legislation to the floor this week. do you see any prospect of that passive i think sometimes republicans decided

they're going to vote against something because they impute, earn firm motives that don't exist. i mean, maybe we want to vote on the bump stocks legislation because we want to ban bump stocks. >> right? maybe it's not for political purposes that actually is the truth. i just think it's better for this country if people can't convert their semi-automatic weapons into machine that's why we lost 50 plus lives in las vegas because the shooter up in that hotel had converted his semi-automatic weapon into a machine gun let's just all decide that machine guns shouldn't be legal in this country. we're gonna bring this bill up for a vote because we want to save lives, not because we want to play politics. if republicans decide to vote against it because they perceive our motives to be something that they are not. that's their issue. that's not my issue. >> senator chris murphy of connecticut. thanks very much for joining us. thank you. >> and coming up new satellite images show how north korea is now preparing to welcome latimer putin, as worries grow over increased military

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jong-un for two days in north korea, starting tomorrow, two liters whose propaganda machines know how to do up the red carpet. the banners being prepared in kim il-sung square. so large, you can see them from space, lying on the ground in washington, alarms are raised, but we are concerned about is the deepening relationship between these two countries. >> specifically, they're growing military relationship. kim jong-un, now, a key supplier of the weapons putin is using against ukraine. north korea has shipped ballistic missiles that have fired on even innocent civilians in ukraine hey and killing them. according to south korea's defense ministry, between last august and this february, north korea shipped ballistic missiles, rocket launchers, and millions of rounds of artillery shells to russia, which putin has deployed on the battlefield. both countries deny those allegations. while these armaments are compatible with soviet and russian weapons systems, some of north korea's weapons are old and defective there have been numerous reports that some of the north korean provided artillery shells have exploded in the

barrel destroying the system as well as injuring or killing some of the russian soldiers. >> still us defense secretary he lloyd austin says the north korean weapons have allowed russian forces to quote, get back up on their feet following earlier losses to ukraine on the battlefield. >> what can kim get in return from putin russia is sending to north korea unknown technology which we believe includes not just military satellite technology, which kim desperately wants to see the battlefield around north korea. >> but also he wants technology that can advance his icbms. and his other missiles with re-entry vehicles. >> this visit also reflects the isolation of the two liters. it's putin's first visit to north korea in 24 years when he started through the capital with kim's father, kim jong il, when the current dictator was only 16-years-old kim meanwhile, has not hosted another world leader in pyongyang since the covid-19 pandemic, this is a step on the world stage for potent and canada. the same time that is a

decimal after kim met with putin at a military manufacturing facility in russia's far east last year, putin gifted kim a luxury russian limousine called the oris, which kim has proudly written around pyongyang in, and that certainly enhances kim stature. >> it shows that he's an equal on the world stage vladimir putin's poke the the us toward, doesn't stop and pyongyang, when he leaves north korea, he'll head straight to communist governed vietnam. a visit to another cold war russian ally that is sure to cause more consternation here in washington. wolf, lots of stake. bryan todd reporting, brian, thank you very much. there's also more news out of russia tonight, state media, there is revealing new details about plans to try the jailed us journalist, evan gershkovich in an espionage charges seen as chief global affairs correspondent, matthew chance is joining us live from moscow. write down matthew, what are you learning about this trial? >> yet? well, what watching

these developments very closely, of course, here from moscow, wolffian, and what we've learned today from the russian authorities is that the trial for espionage of evan gershkovich, the wall street journal reporter, will begin in the russian city of yekaterinburg, or the 20 takes to this month. so just in a few days from now, in fact at the moment gershkovich, as far as we know, is being held here in moscow in the notorious lefortovo prison, where he has been held in pretrial detention since his arrest on espionage charges in march march last year or so. that's that situation. there and what we understand is that the trial when it gets underway we'll be in camera. reporters won't be allowed in. it will be held behind closed doors. the us state department has issued a statement saying that they're going to try to visit the court case and to be in attendance when it takes place. but they're not sure yet if that

will be allowed to happen. certainly, there has been a great deal of restrictions because of what russia says that the security restraints around evan gershkovich, right now, the security concerns about his espionage case, a lot of restrictions on him being visited by us diplomats and certainly by members of the public and the press. >> wolf, matthew chance and mask. i'll thank you very much. just ahead, a live report from one of the more than a dozen wildfires now, burning across california. as the national weather service ups, its risk of spreading it's day cnn celebrated juneteenth with special performances by john legend, hadi lewbel, smokey robinson. >> we still have a lot of work to do. june celebrating freedom legacy wednesday at ten on cnn. get on which you're bad cells one week govern how many such

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>> hey, well, if the wind still very strong and the concern is that that high wind advisory is going to be in place until tomorrow. so that's what these firefighters are up against. i just talked to a fire official who told me they have been able to hold the lines, but you see here behind me, this is already destroyed 42 more than 15,000 acres and you have firefighters working around the clock. this crew here to my left, they're taking a quick 15 break, but they are working very, very hard and you have the cruise also up in the air, dropping the water, trying to do everything they can to continue to keep those fire life the efforts by these guys here is what is keeping those fire lines. there's also this concern about what climate change is doing to this fire and many others in the season. it is very early to see this type of fires. so i want you to take a listen to what one fire official with the forest service told me it's causing us

to be ever vigilant seen a fire of this scale. >> so early in the season, it's springtime after all, and not typical that we see far as decides so this could be a harbinger of things to come for sure and so there are already about 1,200 people under evacuation orders, many others under evacuation warnings, people being told to be vigilant because this wind can change the direction of the fire in a moment's notice. >> and so everybody is being told to pack their bags and to be ready in case this fire continues to spread, wolf, camila bernal. thank you very much for that report. stay safe over there. there's another very dangerous situation unfolding right now as well. millions of americans are at risk from a brutal heat heatwave. cnn meteorologist chad myers is tracking the extreme weather we are in the path of extreme heat, bringing along potential health risks in the forthcoming days summer

officially arrives in the northern hemisphere this week. and with it, a heat wave i've seen in decades from the midwest and great lakes to the northeast, more than 260 million americans are roughly 82% of the us population could shrink temperatures above 90 degrees, nearly 200 daily high temperature records could be tied or broken in major cities, including boston, dc, chicago, st. louis detroit, philadelphia, pittsburgh, and new york city and little relief is expected even at night with low temperatures not dropping below the middle 70s, extreme heat is the most dangerous weather phenomenon we have in new york city we lose over 350 new yorkers a year on average to heat caribou main, which prides itself as the most northeastern city in the us, could hit their hottest temperature ever. wednesday. with a forecast of 99. that's three degrees higher than their all-time hottest high temperature on record. boston is forecast to be nearly 100

degrees on thursday, which would be their earliest 100 degree day. hey in 99 years. and it's not just the high temperatures causing concern, but how long they're expected to stick around pittsburgh, which hasn't seen a single deigo over 95 degrees in more than a decade is forecast to see six consecutive days above 95 degrees and philadelphia is expected to see five straight days at or above 95 if it seems like these scorching heat waves are happening more and more each year it's not your imagination a while, very hot days are of course normal. the number and the duration of these hot days we are seeing each and every year is not the risk to our planet present risks to our health and heat is of course, the deadliest of all extreme weather events here in new york city and across the united states and wolf, if the air is hot, the water is hot, brand new just out from the national hurricane center, potential tropical cyclone

number one will be tropical storm alberto, moving toward mexico. >> actually, there's texas right there, could even see quite a bit of rain in texas with this some of the models putting somewhere between ten and 20 inches of rainfall in spots here as the storm circulates around, even if it doesn't become a hurricane, it can certainly become a flood maker will keep watching that part of summer. and it just getting started or chad myers reporting? chad. thank you very much coming up news from the middle east, including israel, so-called a tactical pause in one small part of gaza. and whether it's having an impact the most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes couldn't be hi, i'm the president and the former president. >> one stage two, very different visions for america's future that cnn presidential debate thursday, june 27th, nine live on cnn and streaming on max you didn't live this strong this long to get put on the shelf like a porcelain doll if you have postmenopausal osteoporosis and

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vital supplies to civilians in gaza. take a look at how the unicef spokesperson, james elder reacted to a failed attempt to deliver aid to northern gaza last week the medical supplies that is nutritional supplies for 10,000 people it was denied for all the approvals. it's denied. it's gone back five hours. you will have to do the same 10,000 people will not get those medical and nutritional supplies that they sowed urgently, urgently need. another i'd restriction another i denial and joining us now from rafah in southern gaza, the unicef spokesperson, james elder. james, thank you so much for joining us. i know you described being stuck at checkpoints only to have a denied. have you seen any changes at all with this so-called tactical pause that we've been reporting on. >> no, no. and i talk to colleagues across agencies on are the backbone of aid here. many others, no often it's a

great question because we need we need evidence. we need to just to work with evidence and not statements and they'll have obviously, any pause in bombing anywhere on the gaza strip that will protect children is good news. but but really the problem is bigger than this tiny stretch of land. the problem is about more crossings being open wolf areas in the north, close rafah, the lifeline for humanitarian aid in the south closed the port, not functioning at the moment these are the things that are critical. >> and then once good i get in israel, it's the occupying power, ensuring it lives up to that legal responsibility to ensure we can deliver that aid safely across the gaza strip. they are the real problems as to why so many children, so many civilians are on the cusp of what we know it's being on the cusp of famine. >> i know you've, you've been in rafah for some time. you've seen children wounded in hospitals. you've seen children suffering from malnutrition. what's it like to be a child in gaza right now?

>> wolf, it's just no place for children. a few hours ago, i was at european hospital and again, i'm seeing many children with amputations, so many children that patients and parents who will tell their stories and as they tell their stories, i'll explain that at the same time that their son was, had i had two limbs removed. their husband was killed, their homes bombed. i was also seeing children who are angry, who is silent or who would throw things because they know what's happened to them. i'm seeing children also will on the ground. hospitals are so overcrowded. i'm seeing children with head wounds oh, terrible burns, not being able to get the medical attention because we've seen the systematic devastation. so physically, it is a place where they are so woefully under threat, but psychologically, it's 250 days of this wolf and they trust me as someone who's barely slept for a few days because the bombing and the drones are so utterly really let less. and then during the

day, if they're not being bombed in a tower into a tangible because of course, if i'm lost their home. so there's no windows and there's no ceiling fans. one of these tens who is 50 degrees celsius? that's i don't know, 120 plus fahrenheit with a lethal lack of water that's live for child in gaza. it's no place for children, but it's home, it's home to 1 million children when you see so many children being killed and suffering month after month, james, do you feel that your warnings are falling on deaf ears? yeah. i have to unfortunately, yes. and it's crushing on one hand of course, we've seen so many protests around the world. people just protesting against attacks on children, just protesting piece. and that has been a wonderful thing. and i think it's a thing also when i speak to so many gazans that it lives spirits to know that people are seeking to raise their voice. but at the same time, whilst we see this almost unprecedented in modern times, range of

protests against attacks on children. we see almost impunity on the other side. so yes, of course, certainly. i find it very disconcerting that people still somehow excused away attacks on children and don't just look solely for a ceasefire. a ceasefire. both these parties seem woefully disconnected from the suffering of children as ceasefire, it gets hostages home that, ends that torment. and it allows wolf as a mother said to me, it would allow her to promise her daughter that she would wake up in the morning. a parent cannot do that. children look in parents eyes now, he will open children know their parents have lost the ability to protect them. that is an awful realization for child and a terrible, terrible moment for parents who also knows that they can no longer protect their child from the sky while malnutrition and lack of water on the ground james elder, the spokesperson for unicef. thanks very much for joining us. stay safe over there thanks and

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